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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: MOMI module Normand   Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:54 pm

As promised I am going to make a module to fit with the excellent réseau MOMI.

Having scrutinised the plans and pictures and considered the options I have decided to make this into a broader project.

1. The distance that the MOMI group exhibit is mostly too far for me to attend regularly so there has to be more use and value than 1 or 2 exhibitions a year.
2. I already have a portable layout and this module needs if possible to have some sort of integration with that but at the same time be self- contained and be a model on its own.
3. My daughter has expressed some interest (at St Aubin earlier) and is quite creative and dextrous so I want to involve her and for it to have a good deal of autonomous play value.
4. It must fit sensibly in my Twingo and be manipulated by one person.

So a module measuring 1100 mm long (which is the length of the straight boards on my portable layout) x 900 mm which is the MOMI standard width.
As soon I started I realised how big this is going to be and it will be the limit of portability by one person.

I've used 10mm MDF for the most part and have constructed this so far.








You can obviously see there is going to be a siding of sorts and some drop-down scenery. But.....I'm not going to tell you what the theme is yet.

This will be an interesting project and especially with Brian building a module as well.
I hope people will enjoy seeing the progress of both and probably completely different approaches to building.







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tram47



Location : Aquitaine (France)

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:03 pm

Very Happy à suivre, to follow .....
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Paulus



Location : The Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:14 pm

The second MOMI project on this site if I'm correct? And a multiple-use module for sure! Considering all the demands this must become a real interesting little layout on it's own than. And the best of all will be you're building it together with your daughter what will make it something extra special.
Have fun!

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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:58 am

I was a little surprised at my daughter at St Aubin as it was her who pursuaded me to take the OO layout so that she could operate it. Sadly it is so old, rather fragile now and difficult for even a dextrous child to operate successfully without supervision.

If I can involve her in this project then it satisfies many criteria not least an increase in my (now 'our') railway budget from the household accounts. Wink

While I have the post open, I am looking for some tips and techniques on creating (lightweight) undulating grass scenery and embankments.
I know some of you are quite experienced in this area. My last primitive efforts were many years ago in OO scale.

This will fill the open area on the baseboard.

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PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:30 pm

Sorcerer's apprentice?........



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Paulus



Location : The Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:51 pm

Some modelers use PU foam on diorama's to make landscapes. Spray it on, let it expand and dry. Than you can cut and shape it in any form you want. It's relatively strong and light weighted.

Here's an example of a N gauge layout. Dutch language but the pictures show the story.

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Paulus



Location : The Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:15 pm

Here's a better example, a gauge 1 scale military diorama. The sloped hill is made out of the spray-foam.

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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:53 pm

Thanks Paul, very interesting and has possibilities.
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GWhizz



Location : Charente, France

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:30 pm

I spy a couple of MOB "Boissons Riviera" wagons in the background, can't remember seeing them on any of your exhibition layouts?

Do you still have that fleet of barrel cars? Might like to borrow a couple for the "Cognac" module sunny

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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:47 am

I think the MOB wagons appeared once along with the Kronenberg ones, but not for long while now. I have about 6 in all.

You may well lease the wine wagons. I have three 4 wheelers and a bogie with 3 barrels.
They haven't been used very much as they don't hold enough for me. drunken

Will that be sufficient for the output of your enterprise?

...Oh and I'd expect them back full. Laughing
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GWhizz



Location : Charente, France

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:52 am

Carl Hibbs wrote:
...Oh and I'd expect them back full. Laughing

Naturally - Pineau? Cognac? or Eau de Vie? Or one barrel of each?


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tram47



Location : Aquitaine (France)

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:58 am

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:14 pm

Some more progress. Working with MDF especially this damp weather means it has to be sealed hence the battleship grey.

The main part of the module will consist of a large full length semi-relief building. This will be separate and detachable.







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Paulus



Location : The Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:14 pm

Nice work Carl.
What sort of industry is it gonna be? The second brewery on the MOMI layout? drunken

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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:17 pm

Paulus wrote:
Nice work Carl.
What sort of industry is it gonna be? The second brewery on the MOMI layout? drunken

It's a secret I'm afraid. Clearly it's an industry of some sorts but people will have to guess until it becomes obvious. bounce
But no, not a brewery or distillery.....
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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:15 pm

In reply to Daniel's post about fibre glass on Brian's thread I thought I'd have a go.

I haven't done scenery for a long time and it's not my field of expertise really..... Laughing

...and especially Daniel's method!





I used far too much resin with not quite enough hardener and the mat sagged a fair bit but it's not too bad for a start and I will add a bit more mat later.
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tram47



Location : Aquitaine (France)

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:15 pm

c'est un début , les dosages sont précis.bien noter chaque essai . Et travailler dans un local aéré !!!!!I

t's a start, the measurements are accurate recorded note each test. And work in a ventilated room!!!

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GWhizz



Location : Charente, France

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:15 pm

Carl, What material are you going to use for the track bed?

Daniel's spec requires it to be only 2mm thick above the baseboard height?

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tram47



Location : Aquitaine (France)

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:57 pm

Daniel's spec requires it to be only 2mm thick above the baseboard height?

WHATT ??????
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Location : Charente, France

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:03 pm

tram47 wrote:
Daniel's spec requires it to be only 2mm thick above the baseboard height?

WHATT ??????

Liege 2mm ?

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tram47



Location : Aquitaine (France)

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:06 pm

O.K. !!!
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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:42 pm

The track height (top of rail) is 20mm above the baseboard surface or more precisely 70mm from the locating/bolt hole centre.

The LGB track is about 18mm high plus Daniel says to use liege 2mm. Liege is cork*. You can get it from most brico places usually on a 5 metre x 50 cm roll...the cost is ridiculous at about 20 euros and we only want a couple of strips.

I have some 2mm card/bristol board type stuff which I am at present sticking down with PVA.

I am only using LGB or equivalent (Trainline actually) for the main lines. The internal network will be Peco rail.

Here's my plan so far and I'll take some progress pics over the weekend.



Daniel:
C'est bon pour Orleans en novembre.

BTW.... Liege is also a city in Belgium which as it happens is twinned with Cork in Ireland It's true... Laughing


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Location : Aquitaine (France)

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:52 pm

c'est très explicite .Félicitations
It is very explicit.Congratulations
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Carl Hibbs
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Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:05 pm

As promised, progress so far.


First stage of scenic covering over the fibre glass terrain.
2mm (card) Track bed glued down and painted...grey!


Aha....barrel wagons... pirat
The track is just loosely laid for the camera.


...And I'm planning a (wagon) turntable too. Cool...


Gabarit....!!!...un peu juste, c'est 120mm.


But the whole construction is removable as well as the roof separately.
The building is constructed to have some younger play value to it and not just as scenery.


The holes and cut outs are for switches and controls.


The wagon and short track in the upper building will form part of a working gantry crane.

You are right Brian to construct your building in card. Mine is removable but it is too heavy to be permanently attached.




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Paulus



Location : The Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: MOMI module Normand   Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:40 pm

Nice progress! That idea for the gantry crane is very clever!

So... not a brewery or distillery... But barrel wagons mmmm.....

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