Continental Garden Trains
Guests can read but log in to post
Continental Garden Trains

For the average enthusiast of trains in garden scale.
 
PortalPortal  HomeHome  RegisterRegister  Log in  

Share | 
 

 Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
k&nwlr



Location : Alsace, France

PostSubject: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sat May 04, 2013 7:14 am

I received an email from Lorenz Schug today with photos of the factory sample of the 0-4-0 Decauville, which I will try to copy onto the forum. Here´s the text and the contact details. The website still carries pics of the original prototype, not of the model, but I assume this will be updated soon. This Decauville model has been a number of years in gestation and I´m looking forward to it going into production ....

Hello

today our Decauville sample arrived, here the first pictures. The loco has sprung axles, cylinder with D-valve, waterglass, lubricator with drain, sprung couplers and so on.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With kind regards,

Lorenz Schug

MBV Schug
Accucraft Distributor Europe
Neustrasse 18
54340 Detzem
Germany

Phone +49 6507-802326

Fax +49 6507-802327



www.accucraft.de


Last edited by k&nwlr on Sat May 04, 2013 7:22 am; edited 2 times in total
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/KandNWLR?feature=mhee
k&nwlr



Location : Alsace, France

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sat May 04, 2013 7:17 am

Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/KandNWLR?feature=mhee
Carl Hibbs
Admin


Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sat May 04, 2013 9:05 am

I too had the e mail from Lorenz Schug as I had expressed an interest in buying one of these.
Although I prefer the 030 version.

Nice locomotive but I think the price is going to be quite high.

To be honest I would much rather he have commisoned a close-coupled metre gauge 030, Corpet, Pinguely, Piguet......We're crying out for one of these!

However the Decauville is French and famous. Very Happy

Back to top Go down
k&nwlr



Location : Alsace, France

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sat May 04, 2013 9:13 am

Judging by the fact that he first talked about the Decauville in 2009, I´m not holding my breath.
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/KandNWLR?feature=mhee
dtsteam



Location : Preston, England

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sat May 04, 2013 9:29 pm

Slide valves, working valve gear,r/c for the gas valve, ( and self acting cylinder drain valves ?) .... nice ! As you say its probably expensive, but quite sophisticated all the same.
Back to top Go down
k&nwlr



Location : Alsace, France

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sun May 05, 2013 6:57 am

I saw the real Decauville 0-6-0 version in the Somme on the Michael Portillo Continental Rail Journey DVD last night. Nice little engine. I wondering whether Lorenz Schug is going to produce that one as well. It´s still up on his website.
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/KandNWLR?feature=mhee
Carl Hibbs
Admin


Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sun May 05, 2013 7:06 am

There was a real one running along the street of Cayeux-sur-mer (Brighton Plage) last weekend. Very Happy
Back to top Go down
k&nwlr



Location : Alsace, France

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sun May 05, 2013 7:19 am

Some of us had to make do with a stationary Chaloner and an equally unmovable Mountaineer (missing boiler certificate) at the Peterborough show.
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/KandNWLR?feature=mhee
Carl Hibbs
Admin


Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sun May 05, 2013 7:29 am

That's an interesting point about boiler certificates.
Are they now mandatory for exhibiting in the U.K.?

As far as I am aware - and I have asked organisers at shows here there is no requirement in France. Well I have never been asked to provide any.

...although they are very concerned about fire retardent curtains!

Back to top Go down
k&nwlr



Location : Alsace, France

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sun May 05, 2013 8:03 am

In this case, Mountaineer was the 1:1 scale version, on loan from the Ffest. which currently can´t run because its 1:1 boiler certificate had expired, and there were no funds to get it refitted.
Concerning garden rail scale, in the UK, apparently, there is no legal requirement, but the associations and clubs provide testing facilities. If you´re running at an association event, then they have insurance that covers all but the most catastrophic of accidents.
But there´s just been a polemic about this in the Garden Rail magazine´s editorial spot, complaining about the Model Engineer Clubs now setting the bar too high (no pun intended), as the 7 1/4 inch boys got to write the standards, leaving the Gauge 1 and 16mm trying to interpret what it all meant for them.
No flame-retardent curtains on the K&NWLR, I can tell you.
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/KandNWLR?feature=mhee
Carl Hibbs
Admin


Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sun May 05, 2013 8:19 am

k&nwlr wrote:
In this case, Mountaineer was the 1:1 scale version,
....Ah....that makes sense. Wink

There are European regulations for 'small scale pressure vessels' but I can't find them now and I seem to recall copius diatribe (that I was probably party too... Rolling Eyes ) on other past forums.

For ride on stuff I remember that the regulations are somewhat different and shouldn't impact on our mini 'low' pressure models.

There are testing facilities here in France with associations such as:

CAV Escarbille

Vapeur 45

Back to top Go down
clive_t



Location : Portsmouth, England

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sun May 05, 2013 8:51 am

Neat little model, I was lucky enough to get some pics of a real one ("Barbouilleur") at Amberley back in 2002 - good grief, where did that time go??





... and again in 2004...



I understand it became a static exhibit there, on expiry of its boiler certificate, back in 2007.

_________________
Cheers,

Clive

Fat Controller of the S&CGR

http://www.scampington-chipside.co.uk
Back to top Go down
http://www.scampington-chipside.co.uk
GWhizz



Location : Charente, France

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sun May 05, 2013 10:00 am

I had the email too! Looks a neat little loco!

We await the price with baited breath!

_________________
Brian
Brian
also blogging at
www.frenchgardenrailways.com
Back to top Go down
http://www.frenchgardenrailways.com
k&nwlr



Location : Alsace, France

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sun May 05, 2013 11:12 am

I got this follow-up mail today from Lorenz Schug:

"The interest in the Decauville is greater than I had expected. It was originally conceived as a cheap stop-gap (locomotive) between my Saxon projects but it has developed into a full-blown model with all the works. Not a great deal is left of the original specification, and I have now to recalculate the project from scratch. Price and delivery date will follow shortly. I will post a few photos on Facebook tomorrow and a Youtube clip of this afternoon´s (steaming)."

das Interesse an der Decauville ist grösser als von mir erwartet. Ursprünglich als preiswerter Lückenfüller zwischen meinen Sachsenprojekten gedacht hat sich die Decauville zum vollwertigen Modell mit allem Drum und Dran entwickeln. Von der ursprünglichen geplanten Variante ist nichts mehr übrig geblieben, daher muß ich das Projekt komplettl neu kalkulieren lassen. Preis und Liefertermin folgen in Kürze. Werde morgen ein paar Fotos auf Facebook posten und einen Clip von heute Nachmittag auf youtube.

Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/KandNWLR?feature=mhee
David Grantham



Location : Midlands, England

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Sun May 05, 2013 11:09 pm

The 16mm group project loco kit Victory, is a similar Decauville, in 0-4-2 guise.

It is in kit form as a brass etch with a roundhouse chassis. Should be available any day now and will maybe cost around £550 to £700.
Back to top Go down
k&nwlr



Location : Alsace, France

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Mon May 06, 2013 9:08 am

I was having a look at the Victory original last night and was wondering whether the 16mm project was inspired.
There´s also a German one-man-show H.D. Clemens / HDC-Dampf.de who produces a 0-4-2 Decauville, which looks very similar. I bought one at a quite reasonable price and hope to get it to steam too, one day Rolling Eyes
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/KandNWLR?feature=mhee
Carl Hibbs
Admin


Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Mon May 06, 2013 4:05 pm

That was a bit of a secret find...... Wink

HDC Steam

Some very interestingly tempting and well made looking machinery!
Back to top Go down
k&nwlr



Location : Alsace, France

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Mon May 06, 2013 4:16 pm

If you go back to my last video with moving pictures, you´ll see a little 0-4-0 (020T) Decauville at the end of the film. Well, I also managed to get the 0-4-2 shown on the website - both are in maintenance at the moment, but I hope to have them running properly soon.
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/KandNWLR?feature=mhee
Carl Hibbs
Admin


Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Mon May 06, 2013 8:09 pm

And guess what.......

There was actually a 020 Decauville with a tender. I found a pic on PME about a railway near Dijon
See this link:
Decauville 020

Which is probably what inspired Regner to produce 'Hanna' with a tender.
Back to top Go down
GWhizz



Location : Charente, France

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Mon May 06, 2013 9:42 pm

Had a reply from Lorenz today when I asked about pricing...

"Hello Brian,
not at the moment, I am waiting on a new quote because it is a complete construction and differnt from what I first liked to offer. I will keep you updated."

_________________
Brian
Brian
also blogging at
www.frenchgardenrailways.com
Back to top Go down
http://www.frenchgardenrailways.com
k&nwlr



Location : Alsace, France

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Tue May 07, 2013 7:28 am

Here is a copy of the mail that arrived early this morning from Lorenz Schug:

Hello,

first I want to thank you for your interst on my Decauville
projects after this long time of waiting. The clip is not perfect but Steven
Spielberg had no time to do this job. More clips and pics will follow in the
next weeks on my youtube and facebook channels. Over the weekend I got the
actual quotes for 50 units of the new version. The pre-sale price until
10.06.2013 is 1490,- Euro, then the regular MSRP is 1590,- Euro. All prices
include 19% VAT. Please note that I need to take a deposit of 500,- Euro after
receiving your order. The production can be finished about 4 month after
starting the production, so it is up to you how fast you can get it.

Now,
here is the link to the Clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqXBljHAndU
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/KandNWLR?feature=mhee
GWhizz



Location : Charente, France

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Tue May 07, 2013 7:50 am

That's a pretty hefty price for a very simple and basic Accucraft.

I might have a bash at building one on a Ragleth power unit!

_________________
Brian
Brian
also blogging at
www.frenchgardenrailways.com
Back to top Go down
http://www.frenchgardenrailways.com
Carl Hibbs
Admin


Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Thu May 09, 2013 12:47 pm

....Or a Regner Emma kit for 770 euros.....buy two for the same price!

Their new catalogue is here.
Back to top Go down
k&nwlr



Location : Alsace, France

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Thu May 09, 2013 1:26 pm

Yeah, I covet the little steam tram, but a Climax (upright boiler) conversion to a steam railcar is the one that I´m planning at the moment.
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/KandNWLR?feature=mhee
David Grantham



Location : Midlands, England

PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Fri May 10, 2013 7:47 am

Mock up 16mm project Victory Decauville. Etched body kit on R/H chassis kit. Estimated cost about £600.


https://i78.servimg.com/u/f78/15/15/54/24/victor15.jpg
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0   Today at 6:16 pm

Back to top Go down
 
Accucraft Germany Decauville 0-4-0
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Continental Garden Trains :: Continental Garden Trains index :: Model locomotives and rolling stock-
Jump to: