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mikeyh

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Location : Dordogne France

PostSubject: Old Railway Maps   Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:15 pm

Just wondering if any of our French residents know of any websites which feature the old railway lines?

I've just started researching the line from Riberac to Mussidan and cant find any maps after 'googling' for ages! I know all the stations but it was such a meandering line!

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philkelly

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Location : Vienne, France and Islington. London

PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:42 am

Mikey: Not sure about websites, but this is from a 1930s Michelin 1:200,000 map (No 75, fold 4.) Not sure how it will repoduce after scanning and posting..hope it helps. I have a complete collection of 1930s Michelin maps (4/- each) assembled in a handsome leather case by Sifton Praed and Co of St James's London SW1 - no doubt for posh motoring tourists. Very useful as it also has narrow gauge railways too...I could post more if this one is useful and people have specific requests



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mikeyh

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Location : Dordogne France

PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:24 am

Phil, thats spot on!! After a bit of sharpening up with photoshop its perfectly legible and has answered many of the queries I had. Thanks. Next request is possibly the same map; Angouleme down to Riberac? They are so useful as all the lines i'm interested in would still have been open.

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Carl Hibbs
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Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:01 pm

Blimey Phil....That's marvellous.

Standby for more request scans of your local favourite disused railway.

I would appreciate Meaux to Damartin en Goele please, especially the station at Monthyon please.

Then the metre gauge lines south of the now A4 from Lagny towards Montcerf and Boissy le Chatel. I'm sure Laurent would like that too.

Les tramways de Seine et Marne.
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GWhizz

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Location : Charente, France

PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:48 pm

Phil you may end up regretting your offer?

How about our local metre gauge line which ran from Montbron to Roumazieres from 1912 to 1946

The whole line was Angouleme - L'isle d'Espagnac -Magnac - Mornac - Le Queroy - Saint Paul - Saint Sornin - Vouthon - Montbron - Rouzede - Mazerolles - Montembouef - Cherves Chatelars - Mazieres - Suris/La Peruse - Roumazieres Loubert

Cheers brian

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Bearcastle

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Location : Brie

PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:57 pm

I have this from a 1952 map for the Km (we still use it).
You could see all the station and the Km between each of them.


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philkelly

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Location : Vienne, France and Islington. London

PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:06 pm

What have I got myself into?

Mikey, here's Angouleme - Map 72 fold 14 lines up with Map 75 fold 4 - so now you've got the whole line!



Carl's request to be processed shortly!

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Bearcastle

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PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:10 pm

Here it cover more lines :

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philkelly

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Location : Vienne, France and Islington. London

PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:46 pm

Carl: Here's Meaux-Damartin: maybe a bit difficult to make out the narrow gauge line along the D5. For future reference, if people know the number of current Michelin map (51-86 series) it would save me a bit of time - the numbers and coverage haven't changed as the maps have been updated.



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Bearcastle

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PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:52 pm

I have another one as well for Carl :

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philkelly

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PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:26 pm

Carl: Here's Lagny (bottom of fold 12): remainder is on Map 61, which I am about to scan. Now that Laurent has posted the Seine et Marne map (from Encyclopedia Francais des Chemins de Fer?) I see the extent of the S-et-M system - this could take some time!



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philkelly

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Location : Vienne, France and Islington. London

PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:44 pm

Carl:

Along the D31 most of the way!



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philkelly

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Location : Vienne, France and Islington. London

PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:19 pm

Carl:

On the above map you've got Marles to Jouy-le-Chatel (roadside mostly) plus 2 60 cm branches (not differentiated from 1m gauge on map) at Rozoy : Jouy-Nangis-Donnemarie: at bottom right, from Vimpelles, the line was roadside (D13) to Bray. North from Jouy via Baton Bazoches (familar name!) to St Simeon:

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mikeyh

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Location : Dordogne France

PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:33 pm

Sorry for the extra work Phil, but I'm certainly glad I asked if anyone knew of any old maps!!! Laughing

mikey!
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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:47 pm

I'm truly amazed and enlightened. I've been looking for this sort of information for a long while and didn't think about old michelin maps.

The 60cm 'betraves' are a real gem.

Thanks Phil.

The Seine et Marne network map I have already as a miniature poster in the station which nobody ever looks at. Crying or Very sad
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philkelly

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Location : Vienne, France and Islington. London

PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:18 pm

I reflect that it may be the first time that these maps have been opened for use since - perhaps - before WW2 - certainly the 50s. I have just read Anthony Beevor's book on D Day which recounts how Patton cheered as his rapid advance required him to keep opening new maps. I know how he felt...but now I must go to a series of meetings, so the rest (sorry Brian) will have to wait till tomorrow....
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Location : Charente, France

PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:03 pm

These are real gems Phil.

More than happy to wait, it is indeed a long term project in any case! and just great looking at the info you've dug out for others!

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philkelly

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PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:30 pm

OK, the weekend's here, the scanner's out and here are the next maps:

First for Carl, the northern end of the Seine-et-Marne system, plus the CFD La Ferte-Montmirail line.

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philkelly

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Location : Vienne, France and Islington. London

PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:04 pm

Brian - this the rest of the Angouleme-Roumazieres line - I now see how close it came to you! It continues from the Angouleme map which I posted above; your regular trips there will have confirmed the abolutely impossibility of finding the line (or any other former line) near Angouleme given the new motorway style links all around. Nearer you, it should be easier - good hunting!



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Bearcastle

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PostSubject: Re: Old Railway Maps   Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:49 am

I have a better view from a Michelin map from the 20' 30' for the tramway of Meaux and Lagny.







Forgot I 've done a specific post, I will post them there later.

The scale of the map is different this is from a 1/200.000 and for the tramway of Lagny the extension to Chessy is not on this map.
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