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Bearcastle

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PostSubject: Line Meaux - Damartin   Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:06 pm

I found an old Michelin Map from 1940, I couldn't extract the whole page so I made section of it.













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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:47 pm

Intriguing.... I pass the old station at Monthyon every Tuesday afternoon as I teach at company (who make incontinence pants.... ) just oustide St. Soupplets

This station is now being lived in as home to a firewood merchant. There are some other remains visible and I will try and take some pictures next week perhaps.
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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:14 am

I 've got a new map from 1912 "carte d'état major". We could see a part of the line from meaux.

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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:21 pm

I found this delightful pic (from god knows where) which shows the station at Monthyon.

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KleineDicke

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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:59 pm

Great photo. 031T - sort of a French U class.

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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:12 pm

I have to say that I don't about that loco. I'm puzzled.

I can't be sure it is Corpet Louvet.

Has anybody got the MTVS review (no.45 ?) that line for that line?
Or does anyone know for sure the make of loco. Maybe a Fives Lille...?
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mikeyh

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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:35 pm

Reference to the history of corpet louvet shows that the line was operated by 7 steam locos, 4 of which were corpets. Unfortunately it doesnt say what the others were. when the line was closed as a public line in 1938 and became a sugar-beet line the corpets were retained and used right up to total closure in 1959.

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KleineDicke

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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:36 pm

Hard to say; bits and pieces look like different constructors. The rectangular shape builder's plate on the cab would eliminate Fives-Lille and Buffaud-Robatel, which both used oval shaped builder's plates. The plate as well as its location looks similar to the one on the CFBS Pinguely, but the shape of the driver's cab is quite different. Cail used rectangular plates, too. Of course, Corpet-Louvet also used rectangular plates, but I don't think it's a Corpet-Louvet- it simply doesn't look like one.

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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:54 pm

I think a Pingueley is possible or what about a Piguet..... Bill?
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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:01 pm

According to the Pinguely sales records none of them were supplied to that line. I think its either a Fives-Lille or a corpet (we;ve already discussed just how many variants there were)

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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:44 pm

There seems something very un-Corpet like about the cab.....

I went past Monthyon today and managed a couple of sombre pics.




The vans are where the track would have been.

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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:50 pm

Compared to your original Pic it hasnt changed much, but I wonder where the name went?

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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:00 pm

On further investigation Mikey is right it is a Corpet Louvet. It was no.3 on the line.
Here is a pic of no.1

CFD, Seine et Marne network. 031 T n° 01 (Corpet-Louvet n° 1211/1909).

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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:02 pm

Mystery solved. I guess I'll have to broaden my perspective as to what a Corpet-Louvet looks like.

I appears this might be one of those cab-forward locos like the Buffaud-Robatel on the CFBS. Look at how open the "front" of the cab is.

Aren't old postcards wonderful? It amazes me the pedestrian day to day sort of things they took photos of for postcards back then. Gives us a great view into life as it was, eh?

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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:09 pm

Presume you;ve looked through the French postcard thread Bill. I collect the images (got over 2000 now) Phil collects the actual cards. they are a wealth of information and inspiration

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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:13 pm

Dont forget they werent pedestrian then but a novelty. I've shown loads of postcards on here where you can see the peoples faces radiating their pleasure at being photographed with an engine !!

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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:24 pm

Bill you are right as well... and these 'cab forwards' are often locally referred to as '130 inverse' rather that 031.

And we are always learning too. There were so many Corpet variants and we keep on discovering more. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Line Meaux - Damartin   Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:27 pm

I;ve just bought on french ebay the MTVS for Meaux-Dammartin. should be interesting when it gets here

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