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GWhizz

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PostSubject: Poppleton Railway Nursery York   Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:47 am

Apologies for posting something non- continental nor strictly Garden Railway, but it is Railway Gardening.

My cousin Tom, a career train driver has recently retired to York and become involved with the

Poppleton Railway Nursery



Claimed to be the only surviving Railway Nursery in the UK it boasts its own NG rail system.

Just wondered if any of our members were aware of it, or live near York?

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PostSubject: Re: Poppleton Railway Nursery York   Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:40 am

What a lovely place and an amazing history. I never knew that there was a 'Railway Nursery'. I thought you had mis-quoted for Nursery Railway! But a great shame is was previously abandoned.

Places like that should be preserved and financed by government money as National Heritage as many places are here.

I would like to see a track plan of it but could find one on the website.
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PostSubject: Re: Poppleton Railway Nursery York   Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:22 pm

My cousin Tom has now signed up to CGT and would like to hear from anyone with a further interest in Poppleton!

Tom Bushell

Perhaps Tom, you could give us a bit more detail on the track layout and rolling stock at the Railway Nursery?

Members might also be keen to hear of your real life train driviing adventures, and models I know I would.

Anyway welcome!

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PostSubject: Re: Poppleton Railway Nursery York   Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:50 pm

I e mailed Tom to say the very same Brian. A family forum now. Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: Poppleton Railway Nursery York   Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:37 pm

Hi There .. I'm Tom Bushell, the new boy of the forum.

I'm not a proper garden modeller; however, I am now a volunteer at the Poppleton
community railway nursery. www.poppletonrailwaynursery.co.uk
The nursery was used by the railways to provide good, fresh, local produce for
the railway hotels - long before celebrity chefs and enviromentalists made the idea fashionable.

After years of neglect Network Rail agreed to a lease with a peppercorn rent to local
volunteers.

Restoration work started this March. I joined, a month ago as a railway volunteer,
working on the 2 foot gauge track.

I hope to bring you some updates of our intended progress over the next few months
plus details of open days/sales for any local forum members.
Also, I may bore you with some details of my time as a train driver on British Rail &
later on London Underground

Cheers Tom Bushell
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PostSubject: Re: Poppleton Railway Nursery York   Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:57 pm

Hello and welcome Tom.

I am sitting comfortably - so you may begin.

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PostSubject: Re: Poppleton Railway Nursery York   Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:46 pm

Hello Tom and welcome to the forum.

That's a very interesting project you've landed in the middle of! I was looking at the pics on the 'Past Nursery Photos' page, and it looks like a couple of old ventilated vans have been put to good use - pic nos 16-18: "S1 Garden Equipment Store".

Most interesting, I look forward to hearing more of your adventures, both current and past!

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PostSubject: Re: Poppleton Railway Nursery York   Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:51 pm

Tom gives a shameless plug for an old freinds railway book shop

After joining the railway as a traction trainee in 1973 I qualified to become an assistant driver at Leeds Holbeck depot.
We were the first new footplate recruits since the demise of steam in 1968.

Traction at Holbeck was very varied and included the deltics. I felt very grand sitting
in the high cab of one of these honourary steam engines, roaring down the track at
120m.p.h.

Routes were also varied and included runs to Derby, Kings cross, Blackpool and best of
all the Settle & Carlisle run.

The next year I was lured by the prospect of highly paid mileage turns to transfer down
to Old Oak Common, the depot for Paddington.

More about this later - I must metion one of the young assistant drivers from Old Oak who
I recently met up with again. - Nick Tozer recently retired after finishing his footplate career
at Huddersfield.
He now has an emporium of second hand iron road literature www.railwaybook.com well
worth a look.

Bye for now Tom
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PostSubject: Re: Poppleton Railway Nursery York   Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:06 pm

Hi Clive - well spotted !

As a martyr for lost causes I've been doing some work on these van bodies but most of
the woodwork is pretty rotten.


Also our convicts [ community payback youths ] have tried some repainting.


One of the vans is visible from passing trains and could help to reflect a good image if
nicely painted, even if the result is just cosmetic

Tom
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PostSubject: Re: Poppleton Railway Nursery York   Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:12 pm

Is it planned for the Poppleton Railway Nursery railway to eventually carry passengers?

This friend of yours Nick Tozer has an RCT (Royal Corps of Transport) badge on his website.
without asking him direct I wonder what his connection is?
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PostSubject: Re: Poppleton Railway Nursery York   Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:31 pm

Hi Carl

I don't see any plans to carry passengers in the near future. The nursery currently
only owns freight wagons.
The track runs through a tight 'limited clearence' area and is crossed several times
by paths leading into or down the side of greenhouses and other buildings.
It all represents a safety and insurance nightmare. - But who knows what we may
be able to achieve for special event days.

Nick Tozer spent many years driving military trains for the territorial army. He managed
to put a lot of time in with the Royal Corps Of Transport, alongside his British Rail
footplate career.

Cheers Tom
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PostSubject: Re: Poppleton Railway Nursery York   Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:52 pm

Shame about the passenger trains but I can understand why. Do you have a plan of the railway?

I had a sneaky thought Nick might have been in the 'Railway Squadron'. That would have been 275 sqn RCT (V) based at Bicester and they had a troop at Grantham at one time (RCT TA recruit training depot). I may have crossed paths with him especially at Grantham.

There is another ex RCT man here as well. Martyn (Via Estrecha) who had connections with the railway squadron too. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Poppleton Railway Nursery York   Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:25 am

I don't think anyone has dared to come up with a long term plan. It wasn't expected
we would ever gain control of the site.
There is the old exchange siding which extends beyond the nursery buildings,however,
this needs to be fenced off from the standard gauge track. Of course all the former
nursery workers had track safety certification.
Metal fencing,to network rail standard, is very expensive.

After briefly meeting Nick, during driver training in1977, we didn't meet again until I
visited his shop in March.
I still have to catch up on his time in the T.A. - must pay him another visit
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