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mikeyh



Location : Dordogne France

PostSubject: Modeller or Purchaser?   Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:25 am

I make no apologies for directly cribbing this topic from my 'small gauge' forum http://www.yourmodelrailway.com because the subject matter is an interesting one.

The high price of both RTR stock and lineside accessories these days means that more and more people are having a go at scratchbuilding for themselves. Now not everyone has the same skills as others but you can finish up with a layout that is a bit different, even unique to those of 'purchasers'

How many garden railways have you seen with the same stations, watertowers etc. nothing wrong with that at all; but are you a modeller or a purchaser?

Mikey (Trying hard to be a modeller!)
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Carl Hibbs
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Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:45 am

mikeyh wrote:

Mikey (Trying hard to be a modeller!)

Doing pretty well I say.

I am more modeller than purchaser. I prefer scratchbuilding when I have the time.
If I had the skill I would build my own steam locos too, but I haven't so purchase it is with those.
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French Chuffed



Location : Droitwich UK

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:47 am

I have been a purchaser up till now with train stuff, my modelling has been restricted to boats ( I know a lot more about them) I have a model Thames barge scratch built that had a disaster in the move and needs re rigging, but that is another story. When I have finished, in the broadest possible use of the word, the landscaping of the track area I intent to have a go at scratch building, some buildings etc. I just have to find the time in my busy retired life.
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PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:35 am

In my head I am a modeller. Years ago, I saw Carls diesel (the big green monster) and thought "I can do this"....Today, after several false starts, I have got as far as buying the bogies, one of which is at present underneath a Battery Playmobil loco I knocked up for a laugh. (See Youtube)
My problem is that I get so far and change my mind. Because I work, I have the time to think too much about the designand not actually DO anything. Originally the diesel was to be similar to a British class 15, then I thought about a loco with a full width body, this actually got half built, but the strength of the body wasnt up to continuous handling. So I dismantled it and thought again. I got as far as thinking about using some square Marley drainpipe for the basis of a loco like Carls.....the drainpipe is in the garage.
So Im a purchaser.
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markbiff



Location : hinckley, uk

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:02 am

more home brew here - altho in weakeness - i have just bought a caladonia

the coaches are kit builds Wink

https://i75.servimg.com/u/f75/13/05/68/32/pict0011.jpg


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markbiff



Location : hinckley, uk

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:07 am

what i really do enjoy is kitbashing

mr otto here has come a long way

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mikeyh



Location : Dordogne France

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:46 am

They are all good looking locos Mark. I'm curious about the coaches. what kits are they and have you painted them?

Mikey
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Carl Hibbs
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Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:41 pm

Chaqu'un son truc et son niveau.

Each to their own thing and their own level.
A lot of people were inspired by the monster diesel project not because it was particularly good or great but because it showed what you can scratchbuild quite simply with minimal average skills.

I shall resurrect this after Christmas probably. The 'monster' is still intact but needs some modifications and improvements.
Rather than spend more time and money on this one I feel the need for a completely new vehicle.

I have some parts already.

I know David Grantham is also aiming to build a live diesel loco and I think we should start a section off for this on it's own.
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markbiff



Location : hinckley, uk

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:32 pm

mikeyh wrote:
They are all good looking locos Mark. I'm curious about the coaches. what kits are they and have you painted them?

Mikey

i will dig some details and piccies out on the coaches Wink
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markbiff



Location : hinckley, uk

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:03 pm

Very Happy the brass coach kits where a private enterprise .commissioned by a gent from notts and gsm

the kit comprised of sides and ends only .



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markbiff



Location : hinckley, uk

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:07 pm

Very Happy all other parts were fabricated

the kits were availible to all on gsm and i dont know if a re run of the kits is likely Crying or Very sad


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Carl Hibbs
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Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:25 pm

Those coaches came out well Mark.
I know there was a lot written (and now lost) on GSM about them but what did you use for the underframes?
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Paul Stainz Holt



Location : North Wales

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:47 pm

I'm a purchaser..........if I was retired, I would do more kitbashing, but to date, the greatest variation I have "modeled" is a Hornby OO turntable............ Smile


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Paul Stainz Holt



Location : North Wales

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:52 pm

I have weathered a few locos though........[img][/img]
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markbiff



Location : hinckley, uk

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:22 pm

carl hibbs wrote:
Those coaches came out well Mark.
I know there was a lot written (and now lost) on GSM about them but what did you use for the underframes?

i,m sure its 5mm perspex - very substantial


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markbiff



Location : hinckley, uk

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:25 pm

the single pivoting axles i made up from cambrian axle guards - accucraft cuoplings and good old building plastic Very Happy

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markbiff



Location : hinckley, uk

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:26 pm

out earning there keep


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markbiff



Location : hinckley, uk

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:29 pm

the single wheel pivoting axles work fine negotiating r1 curves and piontwork - until going in reverse

so i have started on turning them in bogie coaches


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clive_t



Location : Portsmouth, England

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:24 am

Nice set of coaches there Mark. Regarding the 'not going well in reverse' problem, you may like to know that Mr Andy Mzb has an interesting tip on curing that for LGB stock (which of course also has the 2 pivoting axles). Here's a link to that page on his excellent website:

http://www.freewebs.com/mariazellerbahn/trickstips.htm

Apologies if you already knew this.

Coming back to the original topic, I was definitely a purchaser to start with - I was more interested in seeing some large-scale locos and stock running in my garden than trying to build my own. These days, I would probably regard myself more of a modeller - I don't buy very much these days anyway (times is 'ard, guv) and in any case I have no storage space available for new rolling stock! So I tend to look at ways of embellishing what I already have, to make it look a little more realistic, and to enhance the overall look of the line with planting and buildings etc.

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Clive

Fat Controller of the S&CGR

http://www.scampington-chipside.co.uk
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mikeyh



Location : Dordogne France

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:55 am

Mark, I can contain my curiosity no longer! What is that um.. plant? in the picture of your coaches?


Mikey scratch scratch
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Carl Hibbs
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Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:01 pm

Looks like someone's wig to me. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:24 pm

Looks like cousin Thing from the Adams Family?
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PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:48 pm

I would say I am a purchaser .... but I like to tinker, re-paint and kitbash.

study
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markbiff



Location : hinckley, uk

PostSubject: Re: Modeller or Purchaser?   Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:44 pm

carl hibbs wrote:
Looks like someone's wig to me. Very Happy


the wigs been moved flower

all i know its a grass - bought from the garden centre :alien:



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