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clive_t



Location : Portsmouth, England

PostSubject: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:55 am

So, how much might one expect to pay for a 'new in box' LGB loco, albeit analog sprwald in Dev livery?

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KleineDicke



Location : Deep in the Heart of Texas (Houston)

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:50 pm

I bought my Spreewald for under $200. It ran, but it was well used and I had to do some refurbishing. There are no recently sold Spreewalds on eBay (worldwide), but several unsold starting at $300. So I'd say a fair price would be between $250 and $300. If I was buying one, I'd bid in that range. I'd guess the price might be higher across the pond.

Two Spreewalds on US eBay at the moment- one green (DEV) and one black (DR). Both are "like new" and appear so in the photos. Both are around $235 now, but there are 8 days left.

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clive_t



Location : Portsmouth, England

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:02 pm

Well, I saw one in a shop in Alton yesterday, when buying some weathering powders - I went back again today and paid 225 for it. No wear at all on the skates, although I guess they could be replaced on the quiet. It does have a very unused look to it though.

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mikeyh



Location : Dordogne France

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:05 pm

to be honest i haven't got a clue what a 'spreewald ' is but any LGB loco at that price Clive has got to be a good deal!!

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KleineDicke



Location : Deep in the Heart of Texas (Houston)

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:51 pm

This is a Spreewald:
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The prototype was built in 1917 by Arnold Jung for the Pillkaller Kleinbahn. Her service ended on the Spreewaldbahn in eastern Germany. When the DR retired her, she was acquired by the Deutsche Eisenbahn Verein (DEV) and they named her "Spreewald". She continues to run today on their museum railway in nothern Germany.


The DEV has a very impressive collection of meter gauge rolling stock, including some other LGB prototypes.
Check out their website : http://www.museumseisenbahn.de/index.htm

225 pounds isn't a bad price considering it includes some exhorbitant VAT amount and you didn't have to pay any shippping on it. It's a very nice locomotive, Clive, and you won't be disappointed.

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clive_t



Location : Portsmouth, England

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:27 pm

I like them, they're a bit more substantial than a Stainz. with the 2-6-0 wheel arrangement, but still quite suited to a 'short line' - the black 'DR' version was the second LGB loco i ever bought, back in about 2004. Thinking about it, 200-ish was about what I paid for it back then, so maybe I didn't do so bad after all. Here it is as of a year or so ago:


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barryw



Location : newport south wales

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:23 am

it would appear to me your purchase is a good buy looking on GRS second-hand list they want 349 i know they are not the cheapest but still makes yours a bargain enjoy your new loco

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clive_t



Location : Portsmouth, England

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:40 pm

Thanks Barry. Sounds like i've come out on top on this deal, for a change!

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GWhizz



Location : Charente, France

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:14 pm

You lucky b***er! I actually drove past Alton recently on my only visit to the UK in the last 5 years! Why didn't I divert and check out the model shops? Well done a real bargain, but I guess you knew that! Most of us keep quiet about our less successful purchase experiences - the Massoth rail bender comes to mind!
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Spule 4



Location : Tennessee, USA

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:48 am

I paid $312 US for mine, new (22741... I think, DEV but with black plates instead of red).

I really like this loco, probably one of my favorites of LGB, and reportedly one of the few that is about 100% spot on being 1:22,5 scale.

I missed a cheapy on eBay, I wanted it to paint it in Polish/PKP markings.

http://www.holdys.pl/tomi/index.php?desc=on&par=tya6-3326

http://www.thorhauer-eisdorf.de/pommernmodule/seite_Bilder_Pommernmodule/tya63326.htm

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KleineDicke



Location : Deep in the Heart of Texas (Houston)

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:59 am

Spule 4 wrote:
I missed a cheapy on eBay, I wanted it to paint it in Polish/PKP markings.

http://www.holdys.pl/tomi/index.php?desc=on&par=tya6-3326

http://www.thorhauer-eisdorf.de/pommernmodule/seite_Bilder_Pommernmodule/tya63326.htm

The family resemblance is obvious.

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KleineDicke



Location : Deep in the Heart of Texas (Houston)

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:05 pm

I'm not trying to steal Clive's thunder, but I also got a good deal yesterday on this:
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I won it on eBay for $167.50 - listing says it is new. I can't wait to get it.

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clive_t



Location : Portsmouth, England

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:42 pm

Nice loco!

Don't worry about stealing thunder Bill, we have plenty of it over here.

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barryw



Location : newport south wales

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:25 pm

i watched it if its the one on ebay but resisted the temptation, congratulations on a bargain
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KleineDicke



Location : Deep in the Heart of Texas (Houston)

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:37 pm

I tried to resist as well, but when it got to 10 minutes left and the bid was only $160, I had to try. I haven't seen one in a long time go for much less than $200, especially a new one.

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Paul Stainz Holt



Location : North Wales

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:29 pm

clive_t wrote:
Well, I saw one in a shop in Alton yesterday, when buying some weathering powders - I went back again today and paid 225 for it. No wear at all on the skates, although I guess they could be replaced on the quiet. It does have a very unused look to it though.

A very good deal Clive, you did well at that price. Very Happy

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Spule 4



Location : Tennessee, USA

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:55 am

KleineDicke wrote:
Spule 4 wrote:
I missed a cheapy on eBay, I wanted it to paint it in Polish/PKP markings.

http://www.holdys.pl/tomi/index.php?desc=on&par=tya6-3326

http://www.thorhauer-eisdorf.de/pommernmodule/seite_Bilder_Pommernmodule/tya63326.htm

The family resemblance is obvious.

Two made it to Germany (one to DR, one to DB, LGB did both), the other three Polski and USSR, especially as Pillkallen and the PKB ended up being in the Soviet Union (Kaliningrad Oblast) after WWII...

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KleineDicke



Location : Deep in the Heart of Texas (Houston)

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:46 pm

Spule 4 wrote:

Two made it to Germany (one to DR, one to DB, LGB did both), the other three Polski and USSR, especially as Pillkallen and the PKB ended up being in the Soviet Union (Kaliningrad Oblast) after WWII...

I thought LGB did two versions of the same one - in DR livery as it was when it ran on the Spreewaldbahn and the same in the DEV livery after it was "liberated" from the commies. I didn't know about another one from DB.

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KleineDicke



Location : Deep in the Heart of Texas (Houston)

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:39 pm

It appears you got a good deal indeed, Clive. Both of the Spreewalds listed on eBay this week sold for over $400. Consider yourself smart and/or lucky.

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clive_t



Location : Portsmouth, England

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:55 pm

KleineDicke wrote:
It appears you got a good deal indeed, Clive. Both of the Spreewalds listed on eBay this week sold for over $400. Consider yourself smart and/or lucky.

Definitely lucky, Bill. Smart? Well, the jury is still deliberating over that one!

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Spule 4



Location : Tennessee, USA

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:09 am

KleineDicke wrote:
Spule 4 wrote:

Two made it to Germany (one to DR, one to DB, LGB did both), the other three Polski and USSR, especially as Pillkallen and the PKB ended up being in the Soviet Union (Kaliningrad Oblast) after WWII...

I thought LGB did two versions of the same one - in DR livery as it was when it ran on the Spreewaldbahn and the same in the DEV livery after it was "liberated" from the commies. I didn't know about another one from DB.

Here is DB 99 241:

http://www.modell-land.de/dampflok-23741-p-2257.html

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KleineDicke



Location : Deep in the Heart of Texas (Houston)

PostSubject: Re: Sensible price for a LGB loco   Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:45 pm

Spule 4 wrote:
KleineDicke wrote:
Spule 4 wrote:

Two made it to Germany (one to DR, one to DB, LGB did both), the other three Polski and USSR, especially as Pillkallen and the PKB ended up being in the Soviet Union (Kaliningrad Oblast) after WWII...

I thought LGB did two versions of the same one - in DR livery as it was when it ran on the Spreewaldbahn and the same in the DEV livery after it was "liberated" from the commies. I didn't know about another one from DB.

Here is DB 99 241:

http://www.modell-land.de/dampflok-23741-p-2257.html

I hadn't realized there was a DB version. Thanks for the link. BTW, the English history is somewhat abbreviated. The German version mentions service with the Herresfeldbahnen during the war and says the other three 'sisters' went missing.

LGB also did two versions of the Spreewald as I previously mentioned, as DEV Spreewald (LGB 22714 or 2074D) and as DR 99 5633 (LGB 21741). There was also one in a set (LGB 72741) which was described as the Spreewald lok but it is unclear to me which number it carried. I've seen a photo with 99 5633 and another with no number or name. The set comes with DR passengers wagons, so it's probably 99 5633.

Also, according to wikipedia, the original locomotives were number 21-25 on the Pilkaller Kleinbahn. At the end of the war, Nr. 21 was in Neustadt and became DB 99 241, Nr. 23 was in Brandenburg and became DR 99 5633 (and Spreewald), Nr. 24 and 25 were in Weimar and were given to the Russians as war reparations (the entire meter gauge system was apparently dismantled and given to the soviets as well in 1946). That means the Polish one must be Nr. 22.

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